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Will the CBF Really Pay Churches to Consider a Woman as Pastor?

It must have Prednisone ohne rezept seemed like a good idea at the time. Associated Baptist Press reports that Prednisone ohne rezept a state Cooperative Baptist Fellowship is now offering financial incentives in order to Prednisone ohne rezept encourage pulpit search committees to consider women candidates.

According to the report, “The CBF of Missouri offered Sept. 17 to Prednisone ohne rezept pay interview, travel and other expenses incurred by search committees willing to Prednisone ohne rezept ‘include a woman candidate in the process … treating her as a top candidate even if she isn’t actually one of the top candidates,’ CBFMO Associate Coordinator Jeff Langford explained in a Prednisone ohne rezept handout distributed at a Coordinating Council meeting at Memorial Baptist Church in Columbia, Mo.”

No, I am not making this up. Langford added, “Even if the church isn’t ready, the Prednisone ohne rezept search committee may discover a remarkable candidate along the way that Prednisone ohne rezept changes their perspective, either for the current search or for a Prednisone ohne rezept future one.”

The motivation for the concept is clear—those who Prednisone ohne rezept are offering these incentives are frustrated that few churches are Prednisone ohne rezept calling women as senior pastors. According to the ABP report, the Prednisone ohne rezept idea to offer financial incentives came out of a meeting in which several other ideas were also offered. This is Prednisone ohne rezept the idea that made headlines.

Though the Prednisone ohne rezept CBF promotes women as pastors, a 2005 study indicated that Prednisone ohne rezept few of its own churches had called, or had even considered calling, a Prednisone ohne rezept woman as pastor. The authors of that study stated their findings in clear terms:

Never before have Prednisone ohne rezept so many Baptist women officially served as pastors and co-pastors, and Prednisone ohne rezept yet statistically the great majority of Baptist churches affiliated with the Prednisone ohne rezept Alliance, BGAV, BGCT, and CBF have not called women to serve as pastor.

Even within the Prednisone ohne rezept ranks of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship, where the leadership sincerely supports women as senior pastors, their churches are Prednisone ohne rezept still very unlikely to call a woman as pastor. There are Prednisone ohne rezept a few highly visible women who do serve in senior pastor positions, but they are Prednisone ohne rezept rare exceptions to the general rule.

My point is Prednisone ohne rezept not to accuse the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship or its leadership of hypocrisy, for Prednisone ohne rezept there is no reason to question the sincerity of their beliefs. I believe that Prednisone ohne rezept their convictions are wrong, not that their stance is insincere. Indeed, their frustration at the Prednisone ohne rezept slow pace of change in this regard seems authentic—thus this new policy in Missouri.

And yet, the policy does seem clumsy, at best. Paying search committees to consider women as top candidates? That is awkward enough. But, paying them to treat a woman “as a top candidate even if she isn’t actually one of the top candidates”? That seems absolutely desperate, and Prednisone ohne rezept one can only wonder if women seeking pastorates would consider this Prednisone ohne rezept a step forward.

Kathy Pickett, moderator-elect of the Prednisone ohne rezept Missouri CBF and pastor of congregational life at Holmeswood Baptist Church in Kansas City, voiced her own concerns that Prednisone ohne rezept women might be harmed by the proposal. She was especially concerned about young women graduating from Prednisone ohne rezept seminaries, who might be misled by the policy. “There is Prednisone ohne rezept a hopefulness that something is going to change when it Prednisone ohne rezept likely isn’t going to,” she said.

The Missouri proposal, though hard to Prednisone ohne rezept believe at first glance, is also deeply revealing. Those who believe that Prednisone ohne rezept women should be senior pastors believe that the slow progress toward the Prednisone ohne rezept acceptance of female pastors is rooted in enduring prejudice against women. Those of us who Prednisone ohne rezept believe that the Bible precludes women from serving as pastors, on the Prednisone ohne rezept other hand, believe that this pattern reveals the endurance of a Prednisone ohne rezept biblical instinct, even among those who believe, at some level, that Prednisone ohne rezept women should be pastors.

The theological distance between the Prednisone ohne rezept Cooperative Baptist Fellowship and the Southern Baptist Convention continues to grow. This development out of Missouri makes that Prednisone ohne rezept point in an unmistakable way. It will not be the last development to Prednisone ohne rezept do so.

Source: Vicki Brown, “CBFMO Offers Incentive for Churches to Consider Women as Pastors,” Associated Baptist Press, Tuesday, September 27, 2011.

- R. Albert Mohler

Gay Marriage and the Slippery Slope

Gay marriage supporters tend to Prednisone ohne rezept have little tolerance for slippery slope arguments that compare gay marriage to Prednisone ohne rezept other illegal relationships like incest and polygamy. I know that I have Prednisone ohne rezept seen impatience with that kind of argument countless times. Despite protestations to Prednisone ohne rezept the contrary, the slippery slope is a reality, and that fact comes into clear view in a Prednisone ohne rezept recent article from The New York Times website. In an Prednisone ohne rezept online forum about the future of marriage, Stanford law professor, Ralph Richard Banks, contributes a Prednisone ohne rezept piece to the forum titled, “How Moral Norms Evolve.” He writes,

What now of the Prednisone ohne rezept two remaining criminal prohibitions of intimate relationships: incest and polygamy? Even as same sex and Prednisone ohne rezept interracial relationships are accepted, Americans are now imprisoned for incest or Prednisone ohne rezept polygamy.

The cases against polygamy and Prednisone ohne rezept incest are not nearly as strong as most people imagine….

Over time, our moral assessments of these practices will shift, just as they have Prednisone ohne rezept with interracial marriage and same sex marriage. We will begin to Prednisone ohne rezept take seriously questions that now seem beyond the pale: Should a Prednisone ohne rezept state be permitted to imprison two cousins because they have Prednisone ohne rezept sex or attempt to marry? Should a Prednisone ohne rezept man and two wives be permitted to live together as a Prednisone ohne rezept family when they assert that their religious convictions lead them to Prednisone ohne rezept do so?

Another contributor to this forum—Judith Stacey—decries same-sex marriage as forcing sexual relationships into a Prednisone ohne rezept one-on-one mold. In “Unequal Opportunity,” Stacey argues that Prednisone ohne rezept our family laws should recognize a wide array of possible sexual arrangements. She writes,

As the Prednisone ohne rezept United States gradually makes the membership rules to marriage gender-inclusive, it Prednisone ohne rezept risks deepening our sharp class and race disparities in marriage and Prednisone ohne rezept family life. If we wish to avoid this fate, we should not be Prednisone ohne rezept celebrating the benefits of marriage. Instead we need to develop family policies that Prednisone ohne rezept give greater recognition and resources to the growing array of families formed, as Nancy Polikoff titled her book, Beyond (Straight and Gay) Marriage. 

If anyone is Prednisone ohne rezept still doubting the legitimacy of the slippery slope, think again. We are Prednisone ohne rezept already well down the hill. Revisionists aren’t simply trying to Prednisone ohne rezept redefine marriage; they are trying to destroy it. Welcome to the Prednisone ohne rezept moral revolution of our time.

- Denny Burk

A Female President?

Michele Bachmann’s much-ballyhooed run for Prednisone ohne rezept the Republican nomination for President has revived discussion about the propriety of women assuming positions of leadership in public life. What is Prednisone ohne rezept often missed in these discussions is that fact that there is Prednisone ohne rezept no single complementarian view on the role of women in public life. The best summary of complementarian conviction is Prednisone ohne rezept the Danvers Statement, and it is silent on the matter.

The Danvers Statement reveals a Prednisone ohne rezept consensus understanding of Scripture on some broad themes but allows for Prednisone ohne rezept differences on some others. For example, Danvers complementarians agree that Prednisone ohne rezept the Bible teaches a principle of male headship that is Prednisone ohne rezept rooted in God’s original, good creation. They also recognize that Prednisone ohne rezept the New Testament specifically enjoins believers to Prednisone ohne rezept order their homes and their churches in light of this principle. But the Prednisone ohne rezept Danvers Statement does not give specific directives as to how these principles might apply outside of the Prednisone ohne rezept home and the church.

Complementarians who Prednisone ohne rezept apply male headship outside the church and the home do so on the Prednisone ohne rezept basis of a broad biblical theme (headship as a creation principle), not on the basis of specific apostolic commands (see for example the guidelines from Piper and Grudem, Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, 44–45, 50–52). That is why John Piper and Wayne Grudem have said, “As we move out from Prednisone ohne rezept the church and the home we move further from what is Prednisone ohne rezept fairly clear and explicit to what is more ambiguous and inferential” (Ibid., 88). Nevertheless, in settings outside of the Prednisone ohne rezept church and home, Piper and Grudem encourage women not to assume roles of “directive” and “personal” leadership over men. Still, they are Prednisone ohne rezept careful not to forbid any particular occupation to women:

When it Prednisone ohne rezept comes to all the thousands of occupations and professions, with their endlessly varied structures of management, God has Prednisone ohne rezept chosen not to be specific about which roles men and women should fill…. For this reason we focus (within some limits) on how these roles are Prednisone ohne rezept carried out rather than which ones are appropriate (Piper and Grudem, “An Overview of Central Concerns,” in Recovering Biblical Manhood & Womanhood, 89). 

My own view on these matters matches pretty closely John Piper’s. Piper spelled-out his views in 2008 when Prednisone ohne rezept Sarah Palin was running for vice-president of the United States. Even though he argues that Prednisone ohne rezept a woman should not be commander-in-chief, he does not rule out that Prednisone ohne rezept in some situations a woman would be better than a Prednisone ohne rezept man. He writes,

If our roles are Prednisone ohne rezept rooted in the way God created us as male and Prednisone ohne rezept female, then these differences shape the way we live everywhere and Prednisone ohne rezept all the time. 

Add to Prednisone ohne rezept this that the Bible does not encourage us to think of nations as blessed when Prednisone ohne rezept women hold the reins of national authority (Isaiah 3:12). Nor in the Prednisone ohne rezept Bible were women part of those conscripted to fight the battles for Prednisone ohne rezept Israel (Numbers 1:20). 

These and Prednisone ohne rezept other teachings in Scripture incline me to believe that manhood and Prednisone ohne rezept womanhood are not mere social constructs. They are rooted in God’s design for Prednisone ohne rezept creation. They are meant to shape culture, not merely be shaped by culture…. 

A person with my view may very well vote for Prednisone ohne rezept a woman to be President if the man running against her holds views and Prednisone ohne rezept espouses policies that may, as far as we can see, do more harm to Prednisone ohne rezept more people than we think would be done by electing a Prednisone ohne rezept woman President and thus exalting a flawed pattern of womanhood. In my view, defending abortion is Prednisone ohne rezept far worse sin for a man than serving as Vice President is Prednisone ohne rezept for a woman (“Why a Woman Shouldn't Run for Prednisone ohne rezept Vice President, but Wise People May Still Vote for Her,” November 2, 2008, desiringgod.org).

- Denny Burk

The Emergent Woodstock Tackles Gender

Last June, a Prednisone ohne rezept new conference launched in a wooded area just outside of Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina. The meeting was called “The Wild Goose Festival,” and it was a conference/music festival for Prednisone ohne rezept emergent church types. The meeting featured an all-star cast of theological liberals and Prednisone ohne rezept progressives. And at least one report says that 1,500 people attended the Prednisone ohne rezept four-day event. According to the conference website, here’s what “The Wild Goose Festival” is all about:

The Wild Goose is Prednisone ohne rezept a Celtic metaphor for the Holy Spirit. We are followers of Jesus creating a Prednisone ohne rezept festival of justice, spirituality, music and the arts. The festival is Prednisone ohne rezept rooted in the Christian tradition and therefore open to all regardless of belief, ethnicity, gender, sexuality, denomination or Prednisone ohne rezept religious affiliation.

There were several open discussions of gender and Prednisone ohne rezept sexuality at the meeting. On his website (http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tonyjones), Tony Jones describes the impact these discussions had on him:

Based on my experience on this Prednisone ohne rezept blog and at the Wild Goose Festival, a lot of Christians really want to Prednisone ohne rezept talk about sexuality; and … many Christians are Prednisone ohne rezept ready for our conversations about sexuality to expand beyond “what to do with the gays,” and Prednisone ohne rezept instead have a more fully-orbed dialogue about sexuality and human identity.  I also know that, for the first time in my life I’ve met Christians who are in “open” marriages or are practicing polyamory—and I’m committed that my theological/ethical response to them be both Christian and pragmatic/realistic. 

I think that Tony Jones’ remarks are Prednisone ohne rezept a sad, but predictable commentary on the trajectory of liberal downgrade. Jones has Prednisone ohne rezept not only reaffirmed his support for gay relationships among Christians but also spoken of open marriages and Prednisone ohne rezept polyamory as faithful expressions of what it means to follow Jesus. His remarks also tell you Prednisone ohne rezept everything you need to know about the “Wild Goose Festival.” The conference consists by and Prednisone ohne rezept large of former evangelicals leaving the evangelical faith for a mess of pottage known as theological liberalism. As Machen argued nearly 100 years ago, liberal Christianity is Prednisone ohne rezept no Christianity at all. And therein is the tragedy.

-Denny Burk