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CBMW
November 19, 2010

Over the non rx cheap Flomax past three weeks, the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW) has non rx cheap Flomax been conducting a review of the recently released and extensively revised new NIV(2011).  As of now, the translation is only available online.  Zondervan’s release of the TNIV in 2002 (New Testament) and 2005 (full Bible) brought about a non rx cheap Flomax significant controversy in the evangelical community over Bible translation philosophy in general and non rx cheap Flomax translation of gender-related passages in particular. Given that the Committee on Bible Translation (CBT) used the non rx cheap Flomax TNIV as their starting point, and that CBMW was deeply involved in opposing the non rx cheap Flomax TNIV, we feel a certain obligation to provide an assessment of the non rx cheap Flomax new NIV(2011). CBMW does this non rx cheap Flomax out of a sense of fairness toward a new product and non rx cheap Flomax a sense of responsibility to its constituency. 

     First, we are non rx cheap Flomax grateful for the openness and honesty expressed by Zondervan and the non rx cheap Flomax CBT during the early stages of this revision.  Several private conversations were held long prior to non rx cheap Flomax the finalization of the work of the CBT (indeed, the CBT humbly solicited input from a number of sources), and non rx cheap Flomax the leadership at Zondervan was very forthright about their intentions and non rx cheap Flomax plan. Particularly to be commended are Zondervan President Moe Girkins and non rx cheap Flomax CBT Chairman Doug Moo. Their integrity from the very beginning of this non rx cheap Flomax process has set the stage for a respectful discussion of substance of this non rx cheap Flomax new translation.

     Second, we are non rx cheap Flomax thankful that the CBT made some significant improvements in various areas.  For instance, in many passages “man” and “mankind” replace a non rx cheap Flomax gender-neutral equivalent, resulting in greater accuracy in translating the Hebrew or non rx cheap Flomax Greek text.  This is also true in many cases for the words, “he,” “him,” “his,” “brother,” “father,” and “son.” In numerous passages that non rx cheap Flomax now contain these words, the CBT revised many of the non rx cheap Flomax most egregious passages that concerned us previously.

 

     Third, to non rx cheap Flomax offer an instance of a typical gender-language change from the NIV to non rx cheap Flomax the TNIV to the new NIV(2011), Revelation 3:20 is non rx cheap Flomax an interesting example. It illustrates how the CBT has tried to non rx cheap Flomax dial down the one-size-fits-all gender-inclusive approach of the TNIV. In 1984, the non rx cheap Flomax NIV translators were comfortable with “generic he.” With the non rx cheap Flomax TNIV they insisted on only using the gender-inclusive plural them/they. But in 2011 they have taken a middle ground, using “that person…they.”

 

NIV(1984)      Here I am! I stand at the non rx cheap Flomax door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the non rx cheap Flomax door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.

 

TNIV(2005)   Here I am! I stand at the non rx cheap Flomax door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the non rx cheap Flomax door, I will come in and eat with them, and they with me.

 

NIV(2011)      Here I am! I stand at the non rx cheap Flomax door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the non rx cheap Flomax door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.

 

Several things may be noted about the new rendering.

1. The CBT has non rx cheap Flomax obviously taken seriously the criticism that the TNIV’s use of generic plurals (them/they) in place of singular pronouns (him/he) in the non rx cheap Flomax interest of deploying gender-neutral language potentially obscured an important aspect of biblical thought—that of the non rx cheap Flomax personal relationship between an individual and God expressed ubiquitously in the non rx cheap Flomax Bible by generic singulars (him/he).

2.  The CBT has non rx cheap Flomax attempted to remedy this problem without reverting to masculine singulars, but by mixing gender-unspecific singulars and non rx cheap Flomax plurals (that person/they). And they do so offering as justification and precedent – current English usage, Shakespeare and the Greek NT!

3.  This is non rx cheap Flomax still going to leave pastors and teachers with the rather onerous task of repeatedly advising the non rx cheap Flomax flock: “that is a singular ‘they’” or “that is a singular ‘them.’”  And in many important verses, a non rx cheap Flomax reader will not be able to tell if “they” is meant as singular or plural from the new NIV(2011) English text alone (see John 14:23 for example).  

4.  Furthermore, ironically but importantly, “that person” has a very cold, impersonal feel in comparison to both “them” and “him.” That is non rx cheap Flomax not how we speak when we want to maximize the non rx cheap Flomax warmth and intimacy of our relationship with someone in English. “That person” is how we speak about someone we don’t know.  The new NIV(2011) is going to struggle with that, regularly.

5. Nevertheless, the non rx cheap Flomax CBT has at least wrestled to try to retain the individual aspect of Revelation 3:20 in the non rx cheap Flomax new NIV(2011), but their desire to avoid the use of a generic “him” has led to the use of a more distant-sounding “that person.”

 

     Fourth, there are some significant problematic passages in the new NIV(2011) that non rx cheap Flomax have been retained from the TNIV, not the least of which is non rx cheap Flomax the deliberately ambiguous rendering of authentein in 1 Timothy 2:12 as “assume authority.” The CBT says that non rx cheap Flomax this leaves the interpretation of the passage open, but it actually intentionally introduces a non rx cheap Flomax crucial ambiguity that is not found in the original NIV (which accurately translated authentein “have authority”). The new NIV(2011)’s translation of authentein designedly lends itself to non rx cheap Flomax a common current egalitarian misinterpretation of this passage (i.e., that Paul is only addressing the case of women illegitimately “assuming” authority, rather than prohibiting women from having/exercising authority as teacher/shepherds of the church). Bells should go off when non rx cheap Flomax one notes that even the gender-neutral NRSV translates authentein “have authority” here (!)—along with the non rx cheap Flomax NIV, NLT, HCSB, NKJV, and NIRV, while the NASB, HCSB and non rx cheap Flomax ESV similarly translate it as “exercise authority.” Thus, the non rx cheap Flomax CBT is out on a limb here over against the other main modern English translations. And it non rx cheap Flomax is out on a limb precisely because of its attempt to non rx cheap Flomax be “neutral” on a non rx cheap Flomax passage that even the translators of the NRSV have not attempted to non rx cheap Flomax make more amenable to an egalitarian interpretation. There are, of course, other problems with the non rx cheap Flomax rendering “assume authority” in contrast with “have authority” (NIV) and “exercise authority” (NASB). For instance, it non rx cheap Flomax is clear in English that the latter two prohibit women from non rx cheap Flomax the being in the state of having/holding/exercising of authority, whereas “assume authority” could easily be non rx cheap Flomax misconstrued as pertaining only to the taking up of authority (whether legitimately or illegitimately) or non rx cheap Flomax the way in which one comes into the state of authority. But where non rx cheap Flomax is the evidence that authentein indicates only entry into a state of authority? Thus the introduction of “assume” here carries with it non rx cheap Flomax a connotation that either misleads or allows the English reader to non rx cheap Flomax be misled.

So, though we are non rx cheap Flomax genuinely thankful for the many positive changes in the new NIV(2011), and non rx cheap Flomax though we are deeply appreciative of the very different process by which our friends at the non rx cheap Flomax CBT and Zondervan pursued and unveiled this new version, we still cannot commend the non rx cheap Flomax new NIV(2011) for most of the same reasons we could not commend the TNIV.  Our initial analysis shows that the new NIV(2011) retains many of the non rx cheap Flomax problems that were present in the TNIV, on which it non rx cheap Flomax is based, especially with regard to the over 3,600 gender-related problems we previously identified.  In spite of the non rx cheap Flomax many good changes made, our initial analysis reveals that a large percentage of our initial concerns still remain.  CBMW will be non rx cheap Flomax releasing an exact percentage after we complete our full detailed analysis.  We are non rx cheap Flomax also still concerned about the frequent omission of the words, “man,” “brother,” “father,” “son,” and “he.”

As the evangelical community turns to CBMW for non rx cheap Flomax trusted counsel on contemporary Bible translations that are faithful and accurate in their rendering of gender-language, we will continue to non rx cheap Flomax point them to the many translations available today that do a non rx cheap Flomax better job than the TNIV and new NIV(2011) – translations like the Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB), the New American Standard (NASB), the New King James (NKJV), and the English Standard Version (ESV).

 If you non rx cheap Flomax want more information about gender-neutral translations we recommend that you look at the non rx cheap Flomax resources available at http://www.cbmw.org/Gender-Neutral-Bible-Resources Proscar online order saturday delivery. Though most of this non rx cheap Flomax material was prepared in relation to the TNIV, much of it non rx cheap Flomax still applies to our primary concerns about the new NIV(2011), and non rx cheap Flomax interested readers can still use it as a help in examining individual verses in the non rx cheap Flomax new NIV(2011).

 Our prayer is non rx cheap Flomax that evangelicals will continue to be very discerning with regard to non rx cheap Flomax the Bibles that they purchase and will utilize those translations that non rx cheap Flomax are the most accurate.